Homeless encampments are growing, and cities keep sending in police to clear them out, which only makes the crisis worse. But what if the real problem isn’t the tents, it’s the system? In this episode, we sit down with Iain De Jong for an unfiltered conversation about what’s really driving encampments, why shelters aren’t the answer people think they are, and how real solutions start with trust, housing, and human connection—not punishment.

This podcast episode is sponsored by Pulse For Good—an automated feedback system that helps shelters, clinics, and community programs listen to the people they serve. Learn more at: pulseforgood.com/invisible