This is our sixth podcast with Iain De Jong, and it may be the most urgent one yet. Across the country, criminalization of homelessness continues to grow while public support for housing as a solution keeps slipping. We talk candidly about where we are on “the screwed scale,” why recycled soundbites aren’t working, and what it will take to change the narrative before it’s too late.

We believe good things happen when people stay positive—but we also have to face the world as it really is. This episode is about hard truths, accountability, and the culture change needed to protect decades of progress.

Watch or listen to all of our podcasts with Iain De Jong in this YouTube playlist: invisiblepeople.tv/IainPodcasts