She’s not just our cohost—she’s a creative and intellectual force. In this episode, we sit down with Whitney Phillips to explore how grit and tenacity turned a series of bold leaps of faith into a career paved with platinum. From waiting tables to Lil Wayne, to accidentally hanging up on Christina Aguilera’s manager as an intern before earning her first Grammy nomination alongside the icon herself, Whitney’s story is one of resilience and relentless drive. Whether it was being the odd man out at an A-list writing camp and coming out the other side with a Celine Dion placement—or flipping quarantine on its head by scoring her first #1 record entirely over Zoom—she proves that every stripe of hers was earned, not given. Truly a woman who paved her own path, Whitney is a testament to how far you can go if you have the courage to keep going.