In this episode, Jacob and Scott talk about the time we’re living through as an actual apocalypse, or an “unveiling,” as the word used to be defined. They ask the question, whether we see the world as crumbling or as flourishing, who do you want to be within it? How do you want to show up in your life, no matter how life around you is showing up? 

The friends talk about the overturning of Roe v Wade, how that is affecting them, and the ways in which we humans are entirely too comfortable wanting to control others when we ourselves would never want to be controlled in the same ways. 

Jacob gets forceful (for him) in his plea to all of us to live into choices that create more peace and grounding in our lives. It’s not enough to want it without doing anything to create the “it” you want. As usual, there’s lots of heart and many laughs throughout the conversation.

Scott’s newsletter: scottstabile.substack.com

Jacob’s “peace of heart and mind healing Rx program” https://www.healcreate.org/creative-self-journaling-program-gift/