Worship leader and songwriter Phil Wickham is back—this time with his wife Mallory, who pulls back the curtain on life at home while Phil is on the road. From privacy and boundaries to joyful chaos with kids, they talk honestly about the unseen sacrifices that make visible ministry possible. You’ll hear the story of their relationship (from hesitant boyfriend to wholehearted husband), the reality of Summer Worship Nights—miracles, momentum, and whooping cough—and the everyday stuff: mice in the garage, sprinter van shenanigans, and why a five-gallon bucket is elite family gear. It’s tender, funny, and full of faith for marriages and homes that put Jesus at the center. Connect with us on social! Phil + Mallory: @philwickham Levi: @levilusko Jennie: @jennielusko Fresh Life Church: @freshlife [Links] Listen to Song of The Saints on Spotify: https://bit.ly/48wvAPQ Listen to Song of The Saints on Apple Music: https://bit.ly/42ISrnI Get the 5 Gallon Bucket: https://bit.ly/sdl4sHY Get the Lusketeer Sticker: https://bit.ly/sdl4sHY Subscribe for more exclusive content: https://levilusko.com/hitl-subscribe Time stamps 06:50 – Mallory’s first-ever podcast 23:42 – Mice infestation + whooping cough 36:24 – Billy Graham cameo & Phil raps 38:47 – Sprinter vs. the garage 43:31 – Five-gallon bucket mouse trap 53:27 – Song of the Saints tour preview