Heroes of HR is your backstage pass to the unsung champions of every workplace—the People Heroes. This limited-series podcast, brought to you by isolved, cuts through the fluff to highlight the real leaders, innovators, and change-makers redefining HR, payroll, and talent management.
Each short, bingeable episode hits the big questions head-on: What’s keeping you up at night? What’s got you fired up about 2025? How do you explain isolved to someone who’s never heard of HR tech? And how do you recharge when the grind gets real?
We’re talking bold insights, no BS, and stories that’ll stick with you. If you’re in the trenches of HR or just curious about the people shaping the future of work, this series delivers the goods.
Ready to meet the People Heroes redefining what’s possible? Hit play.
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Heroes of HR is your backstage pass to the unsung champions of every workplace—the People Heroes. This limited-series podcast, brought to you by isolved, cuts through the fluff to highlight the real leaders, innovators, and change-makers redefining HR, payroll, and talent management.
Each short, bingeable episode hits the big questions head-on: What’s keeping you up at night? What’s got you fired up about 2025? How do you explain isolved to someone who’s never heard of HR tech? And how do you recharge when the grind gets real?
We’re talking bold insights, no BS, and stories that’ll stick with you. If you’re in the trenches of HR or just curious about the people shaping the future of work, this series delivers the goods.
Ready to meet the People Heroes redefining what’s possible? Hit play.
Workforce planning meets real life: Tom McCarty on empowering HR with better org design tools
Heroes of HR
18 minutes
3 months ago
Workforce planning meets real life: Tom McCarty on empowering HR with better org design tools
Tom McCarty, CEO of OrgChart, joins William Tincup and Ryan Leary live at SHRM 2025 in San Diego to talk org charts, AI fears, and why spreadsheets are failing HR. The trio digs into how HR teams can own strategic workforce decisions when given the right tools—and what happens when finance tries to go it alone. Tom shares how OrgChart helps HR visualize both present and future states of the org so they can lead with insight, not outdated data.
From Dell call centers to coaching trees in football, Tom opens up about what drives him: creating life-changing opportunities. He recounts a transformational moment from early in his career that shaped how he leads today—and why investing in people always pays off. This episode hits on the tension between tech and trust, the risk of modeling people like numbers, and the irreplaceable superpower of HR pros who do more with less.
Timestamps
00:00 — Tom McCarty joins from the floor at SHRM 2025 in San Diego
01:00 — How OrgChart helps HR visualize current and future org structures
02:30 — Why modeling workforce changes needs more than a spreadsheet
04:00 — AI in HR: where it’s being embraced and where fear still lingers
05:00 — Sensitive data, slow adoption, and the AI trust gap
06:00 — Finance wants in—why people data is becoming a CFO priority
07:15 — Spreadsheets vs org charts: the fight for visibility and accuracy
08:30 — HR + finance collaboration: shared goals, different tools
09:30 — Who HR heroes really are and why doing more with less defines them
10:30 — Tom’s superpower and why coaching beats managing
11:30 — College football analogies and coaching trees as leadership models
14:30 — A moment at Dell that changed how Tom views opportunity
16:30 — The ripple effect of lifting people up—inside and outside of work
This episode was recorded live with isolved at the SHRM Annual Conference in San Diego.
The Heroes of HR podcast is a limited series sponsored by isolved. isolved is an HCM platform that modernizes HR, benefits, and payroll across Healthcare, Hospitality, Manufacturing, and more.
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Heroes of HR
Heroes of HR is your backstage pass to the unsung champions of every workplace—the People Heroes. This limited-series podcast, brought to you by isolved, cuts through the fluff to highlight the real leaders, innovators, and change-makers redefining HR, payroll, and talent management.
Each short, bingeable episode hits the big questions head-on: What’s keeping you up at night? What’s got you fired up about 2025? How do you explain isolved to someone who’s never heard of HR tech? And how do you recharge when the grind gets real?
We’re talking bold insights, no BS, and stories that’ll stick with you. If you’re in the trenches of HR or just curious about the people shaping the future of work, this series delivers the goods.
Ready to meet the People Heroes redefining what’s possible? Hit play.