In this episode of Her Money Matters, Naomi is joined by the fabulous Helene Psarakis for a deep dive into the kind of debt we don’t talk about enough—mortgages. Inspired by Salt-N-Pepa’s iconic anthem, this episode injects a bit of fun on debt and brings the sass, the stats, and the solutions. You’ll learn: Why “No Debt by Retirement” should be your new mantra The 5 levers that can save you hundreds of thousands on your mortgage How to renegotiate your rate, restructure your loan, and supercharge your repayments Real-life examples that show how small changes = big savings Whether you’re refinancing, downsizing, or just starting to pay attention, this episode is your wake-up call. You’ll walk away with practical strategies that could shave years off your loan and save you hundreds of thousands in interest.   So grab your banking app, turn up the volume, and let’s talk about debt, baby!