In his second appearance on the podcast, Headmaster Nic Hill returns to the studio, this time alongside Principal Steve Hart, for a rich and honest conversation about the state of boys’ education. With a combined 47 years of experience, Nic and Steve bring deep insight into the evolving challenges and opportunities facing young men today, particularly around identity, belonging, and masculinity.

Together with host Katie Stanton, they explore how schools can create environments where boys thrive, not through outdated notions of toughness, but through meaningful relationships, emotional support, and a culture that encourages authenticity. This follow-up episode builds on previous themes while offering new perspectives on how educators, families, and communities can more effectively champion the growth of young men.