Sibongile Mofokeng hosts Advocate Rufus Malatji and Pastor Lukas Nkosi as they discuss the CRL Commission Reports Part 2. They explain that the Commission for the Promotion and Protection of the Rights to Religious Freedom in South Africa (CRL) is a constitutional body responsible for safeguarding religious rights and addressing issues related to religious practices and organizations. The recent appointment of a committee to regulate churches has sparked debate on the appropriate scope of government involvement in church affairs. Advocates argue that while the state has a role in ensuring religious freedoms and preventing abuses, excessive regulation could infringe on church autonomy and spiritual independence. The discussion explores whether churches should self-regulate through their own structures or if oversight by the state is necessary to maintain order, transparency, and social responsibility.