In this episode, actor, rapper, and activist Riz Ahmed joins us to talk about the second stage of grief: anger. He shares some of his quarantine frustrations, his complicated relationship with anger and how it’s simultaneously rewarded, yet misinterpreted, especially when it’s expressed by men of color. Liz and Riz fail to make a single joke about how their names rhyme, but do write a letter to their anger and encourage you to do it too.