Phrasal verbs: the ultimate headache for English learners—or are they? In this episode, I talk with Nathaly Rodriguez, an English language teacher and self-proclaimed "language detective," to uncover the secrets behind these tricky verb + particle combinations. Nathaly shares her personal journey with English, from struggling with phrasal verbs as an instructor to discovering a cognitive linguistics approach that finally made them click. We explore how understanding the core meaning of particles—like down in burn down or off in take off—can make phrasal verbs feel more intuitive and even easier to remember. Along the way, we discuss how phrasal verbs are incredibly flexible (peopled out?) and why they’re actually shortcuts in conversation rather than obstacles.  If you've ever felt overwhelmed by phrasal verbs, this episode is for you. By the end, you might even start to light up when you hear them 😂 ! 🎯 Where to find Nathaly:  Follow her on Instagram @nathalyclassroom for daily insights on phrasal verbs and more! Plus, check out her course Light Up: Phrasal Verbs Demystified to master these tricky verbs with confidence. You can also find her on YouTube. 📌 Don't forget to subscribe, share, and let me know—what's your favorite (or most frustrating) phrasal verb?   Hear You Go English language listening podcasts aim to give you, the intermediate English language learner and advanced English language learner, a space to practice your English listening so that you can think, learn, and connect in English.  ******************************** 📥 Do you get my newsletter? It’s really the best way to hear from me. Transcripts are included in the newsletter. You can also follow me on Instagram. 🎶 Amos the Transparent provides my theme song. They're an awesome group of talented musicians. Give them some love and check out their music.