We talk with Professors Jodi Forlizzi and John Zimmerman, both of whom have been with the HCII since its early days. We discuss their field-defining work in expanding HCI to incorporate design research, as well as the need to focus on creating valuable solutions rather than just challenging ones, especially in terms of new tech like AI.   Links: Design Research - https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/1240624.1240704 (their foundational 2007 paper introducing research through design) - https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2405872616300661 (their 2017 paper introducing the framework of speed dating) - https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3472307.3484664 (their work exploring designs for smart homes) - https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/1978942.1979161 (the paper regarding virtual possessions)   Artificial Intelligence  - https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/3290605.3300468 (John Zimmerman's work on unremarkable AI) - https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3313831.3376301 (John Zimmerman's work on designing human-AI interaction)   Human-Robot Interaction: https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3579466 (Jodi Forlizzi’s recent work exploring the role of robots in the hotel industry) https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/1349822.1349860 (Jodi Forlizzi’s work exploring the role of robots in hospitals) https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3385007 (an exploration of how robots might be used for emotional catharsis) https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/3322276.3322340 (their work exploring coembodiment and reembodiment in robots)