In this episode of the podcast as part of this season's ongoing exploration of the drinks and spirits industry. I had the pleasure of interviewing a beer judge, drinks expert, and award-winning wine writer, Susan Boyle. Susan talked about her early beginnings working in the family bar in Kildare, the ins and outs of judging beer, what is a table captain?, the origins of the wine bottle, research that had her re-creating Egyptian beer, to showcasing Irish spirits in America and so much more. Thanks Susan for the lovely chat about all things beer, wine and spirits, whether you're a regular listener or new to the show, well you're always welcome here on Hartelines.