This is the music-free episode, available on all platforms! Change is in some ways an inevitability, while simultaneously a nearly impossible achievement both societally and even personally. This is the basis for Chris and Ian's conversation in today's episode. Inspired by the multi-talented Djo, the HOIP boys share their thoughts on the matter. Chris and Ian chose the following songs to accompany this episode -

Change by Djo

Change Is Coming by Sam Cooke

Obviously by We Are The City