In this episode of When I Grow Up, Paul Glazby welcomes back Ian M, the first guest to return for a second round and a true legend of the hard house scene. Ian's first appearance quickly became one of the podcast's most-listened-to episodes, and now he's back with even more stories, reflections, and sharp-edged humour.

The conversation dives into the realities of longevity in dance music. Ian opens up about what it feels like to face the possibility of his final gigs, the physical toll of decades behind the decks, and the changing face of club culture. From vinyl-hauling days that left him with a bad back to today's USB-driven world, Ian shares the wry perspective of someone who's seen it all.

Listeners will hear tales from legendary events like Tidy Weekender and Trade, where Ian cut his teeth and shaped a generation of DJs, including Paul himself, who admits to modelling his own style on Ian's unflappable presence behind the decks. The two also contrast the slower, progressive builds of their era with today's rapid-fire, 160 BPM energy, questioning whether modern crowds expect too much spectacle from DJs who once let the music speak for itself.

But it's not all nostalgia. Ian's quick wit shines through in anecdotes about eccentric characters, surreal club nights, and brushes with the Russian Mafia. He reflects on the evolution of the scene, the rise of new sub-genres like bounce, and why the best DJs don't need to clap, jump, or dance behind the booth.

This episode is more than a trip down memory lane; it's
 a candid look at how a culture evolves, what gets lost along the way, and why the music still matters most. For long-time fans and new listeners alike, Ian M offers an honest, funny, and at times poignant perspective on an extraordinary career that may be approaching its final chapter.

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