
Recorded in Hamburg, this episode takes you straight into the heart of the IMO’s latest climate negotiations in London—with insider insights from Sönke Diesener of NABU, one of Germany’s leading environmental NGOs.
With clarity, strategy, and urgency, Sönke shares:
Why the new North Atlantic Emission Control Area passed so smoothly
What’s really happening in IMO climate talks—and why ambition is still the missing piece
How a North–South coalition for a global CO₂ levy fell apart
Germany’s steady influence behind the scenes at IMO
And how NABU balances advocacy, data, and diplomacy—sometimes raising red flags, sometimes shaping the playbook
“You have to stay optimistic,” Sönke says, pointing to rising waters in Hamburg and disappearing coastlines in the South Pacific.
A compelling conversation for anyone tracking the future of shipping, regulation, and climate leadership.