What separates a great CISO from a great one? In this powerhouse conversation, Ron invites friend and cybersecurity leader Gary Hayslip, CISO at SoftBank Investment Advisers, back on the mic to discuss what it takes to lead in today’s high-stakes digital world. Gary shares battle-tested insights on accountability, the evolving expectations of the CISO role, and how AI is reshaping leadership without replacing it. Gary shares stories ranging from military mishaps to enterprise-scale transformation, and makes the case for visibility, trust, and embracing change. His perspective brings clarity to the fundamental responsibilities of a CISO and the mindset required to lead with impact. Impactful Moments 00:00 – Introduction 02:00 – Defining the modern CISO as a business leader 05:45 – Why CISOs should never delegate accountability 07:30 – The danger of staying invisible 10:45 – The $40K UPS explosion mistake 15:00 – How leaders build trust in new teams 19:10 – Visibility is not micromanagement 24:30 – Staying humble while leading big 30:00 – Building “Rocky the Raccoon” internal GPT 34:30 – Hiring for AI fluency in security teams Links: Connect with our guest, Gary Hayslip: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ghayslip/ Check out our upcoming events: https://www.hackervalley.com/livestreams Join our creative mastermind and stand out as a cybersecurity professional: https://www.patreon.com/hackervalleystudio Love Hacker Valley Studio? Pick up some swag: https://store.hackervalley.com Continue the conversation by joining our Discord: https://hackervalley.com/discord Become a sponsor of the show to amplify your brand: https://hackervalley.com/work-with-us/