What does it really mean to lead like a spiritual father? In this episode, Mark and Dave unpack Paul’s blueprint for apostolic leadership—not as a flashy strategist, but as a scarred founder willing to build slow and love deep.

You'll hear why foundations matter, why founders must be misunderstood, and why the scars validate the message. If you’re vision is multiplying leaders, movements, or churches, this conversation reframes your role—and your costs.

Covo Multipliers:

• Join the Signal Group: To connect with others living the co-vocational lifestyle, share wins/challenges, and get early access to event updates: https://forms.gle/TWB6kGRQWdpgbvFu8
• Participate in the June 28, 2025 Bible Study: Zoom deep dive into the model of Priscilla and Aquila, facilitated by Dave. Get biblical clarity and shared DNA for multiplying gospel-centered communities. Join Signal Group for access.
• Prepare for an October Immersion Experience: Mark your calendar—details to come. Live shoulder-to-shoulder with others in a practical environment to accelerate reproducibility.