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Grit and Grace
Pam Rader and Erin Payne
73 episodes
5 days ago
Grit & Grace is where life’s grit doesn’t grind us down—it polishes us. Hosted by Pam Rader and Erin Payne, with occasional cowboy wisdom from Brian Thiessen, this show dives into resilience, reinvention, and rising. We laugh, we cry, we get real—and we explore how to turn challenges into opportunities for transformation. From raw stories to expert insights, Grit & Grace is your space to grow, play, and live in alignment with what matters most.
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Grit & Grace is where life’s grit doesn’t grind us down—it polishes us. Hosted by Pam Rader and Erin Payne, with occasional cowboy wisdom from Brian Thiessen, this show dives into resilience, reinvention, and rising. We laugh, we cry, we get real—and we explore how to turn challenges into opportunities for transformation. From raw stories to expert insights, Grit & Grace is your space to grow, play, and live in alignment with what matters most.
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Self-Improvement
Education
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Beyond “Protect & Provide”: A Cowboy’s Take on Real Partnership
Grit and Grace
35 minutes 53 seconds
5 days ago
Beyond “Protect & Provide”: A Cowboy’s Take on Real Partnership

This week on Grit & Grace, the Cowboy rides in.

Pam sits down with Brian for a straight-talk conversation about masculine and feminine energy—minus the jargon and the rented Lamborghinis. What starts as a discussion about polarity quickly turns into something much more honest: how men and women can actually understand each other, communicate better, and meet in authenticity instead of blame.

From the old “protect and provide” script to the confusion modern men feel about being strong and soft, Brian brings a grounded, every-day voice to a topic that’s often over-theorized. His practical, good-humored “cowboy wisdom” balances Pam’s heart-led insight, giving listeners a fuller, more human perspective on how we can all show up—vulnerably, responsibly, and real.

Together they unpack:

  • Why “roles” aren’t the problem—disconnection is

  • What happens when women try to feel safe through control, and men try to love through protection

  • How to listen without defensiveness and speak without blame

  • Why communication—not polarity—is the real secret to healthy relationships

  • The Cowboy’s take on what it means to “man up” without armouring up

This isn’t the polished “evolved male” narrative you see online—it’s something rarer: a real man, willing to get honest about confusion, softness, and what peace feels like on the other side of pretending.

If you’ve ever wondered what men are actually thinking, or how to make love feel less like keeping score and more like being seen, this episode is your invitation to slow down, drop the labels, and listen.

Want more grit-to-grace conversations (and maybe a campfire chat with the Cowboy)?
Join the Grit & Grace Retreat waitlist at pamrader.com



Grit and Grace
Grit & Grace is where life’s grit doesn’t grind us down—it polishes us. Hosted by Pam Rader and Erin Payne, with occasional cowboy wisdom from Brian Thiessen, this show dives into resilience, reinvention, and rising. We laugh, we cry, we get real—and we explore how to turn challenges into opportunities for transformation. From raw stories to expert insights, Grit & Grace is your space to grow, play, and live in alignment with what matters most.