In this episode, together with Ellie Rennie we dive deep into the intricacies of Decentralized Autonomous Organizations (DAOs). We explore the dynamics of human coordination versus automated systems, the impact of AI on DAOs, and the critical components that make or break decentralized communities. Ellie Rennie is a Professor at RMIT University. Her research is examining permissionless systems and on-chain communities using ethnographic methods, including validator governance, contribution systems and infrastructures for the collective governance of knowledge. Ellie is also a Research Director within the international research network Metagov and an Associate Investigator of the ARC Centre of Excellence for Automated Decision-Making and Society. In this episode, Ellie shares invaluable insights from her extensive research on decentralized communities, shedding light on collusion, attention problems, and the transformative potential of DAOs. Learn about the Knowledge Organization Infrastructure (KOI), its application in DAOs, and the concept of contribution systems and more. Don't miss this comprehensive discussion that bridges organizational theory, ethnography, and cutting-edge technology. Some of the work by Professor Ellie Rennie mentioned in the episode: - Rennie, E. (2024, July 6). What is a good DAO (and how do we know)? Medium. https://ellierennie.medium.com/what-is-a-good-dao-and-how-do-we-know-2efa2943997b - Rennie, E. (2023, September 28). On Governators. Medium. https://ellierennie.medium.com/on-governators-92ec2697829d - Rennie, E. (2024, April 24). KOI-Pond: The creation of a synthetic deme. Medium. https://ellierennie.medium.com/koi-pond-the-creation-of-a-synthetic-deme-999a6f1f3426 - Rennie, E., & Potts, J. (2024, November 11). Contribution systems. SSRN. https://doi.org/10.2139/ssrn.5018758 Listen to this episode on all platforms: Apple : https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/gov-futures-trailer/id1823028614?i=1000714675608 Spotify : https://open.spotify.com/show/6QRkrWmq21Z66jRJtN2UIu Follow us on X: https://x.com/gov_futures  Timestamps: 00:00 Teaser and Introduction02:23 Introduction and Warm-Up03:33 Understanding DAOs: Good vs. Bad04:38 Human Coordination in DAOs08:21 Technological and Human Elements in DAOs10:36 The Role of AI in DAOs18:40 Knowledge Systems and Governance28:46 KOI: Knowledge Organization Infrastructure43:34 Contribution Systems in DAOs59:48 Final Thoughts and Quickfire Questions