Today we will be going back to Cappelens Forslag, a bookshop that I'm sure you remember from our first season. And if you missed that episode, do go back and give it a listen, it's a conversation I loved where we even discuss a famous book heist. My guest today is Pil Cappelen Smith, booksellers, owner of Cappelens Forslag and now also a publisher. Christmas may not be his favourite season, but he did join me for a conversation about Christmas book shopping, the joys of the holidays (despite their way-too-capitalistic flair) and shared his perhaps unusual choice of favourite story set around this time of year. Here's my conversation with Pil.