In this emotionally-rich and faith-filled conversation, Dr. Kim and counselor Yvonne Thomas explore how core beliefs, spiritual identity, and grace intersect in mental health and personal transformation. From Yvonne’s journey out of religious legalism to discovering God’s unconditional love, to Dr. Kim’s moving analogy of being a burden yet infinitely loved—this episode is a call to deeper authenticity and spiritual healing.They share stories about their own families, childhoods, and parenting struggles, providing an honest look at how performance-based identity and legalism can silently dominate faith and mental well-being. But it doesn’t stop there—this episode is about hope: how God re-parents His children and leads them toward rest, freedom, and connection.00:00 – Introduction & Background01:30 – Mental Health Training & Spiritual Integration03:00 – Yvonne’s Testimony & Call to Counseling07:00 – Core Beliefs and Childhood Wounds11:00 – Legalism and the Church Experience14:30 – Why Legalism Persists in Churches and Families19:00 – Parenting with Grace, Not Fear23:30 – Rewiring the Spiritual DNA30:00 – Worth Beyond Utility: A Radical Thought Exercise33:00 – Learning to Sit in Stillness with God35:00 – Closing Remarks & Where to Find YvonneSpeak with Yvonne: https://growtherapy.com/provider/sfb70zfduti7/yvonne-thomasConnect with Yvonne: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yvonne-m-thomas-m-a-lpc-24462897/Want to be part of my email of hope newsletter community? Sign up here: https://www.uejinkim.com/contact