
On the National Day of Truth and Reconciliation, we honour the children who never returned home, the Survivors of residential schools, and their families—wearing orange shirts, observing silence, and acknowledging the land we live on. Yet sometimes it feels like performance. Can these gestures move beyond checkboxes and virtue signaling to true transformation? In this episode, I sit with Dr. Mike Hogetorp, facilitator for the Canadian Learning Community for Decolonization and Innovation in Theological Education with NAIITS, to explore how we can enter these rituals with sincerity, humility, and a willingness to be unsettled, taught, and changed—asking what it really takes to cultivate right relationship and authentic reconciliation.