Surprise!

Our first interview is ready for your ears—two weeks earlier than planned!

This week, we sat down with Elle Ota, Chief Strategy Officer and board member of the Renegade Relief Runners in Ukraine.

Elle shares her incredible journey as a woman in the humanitarian aid space, navigating relief efforts and empowering women in crisis zones.

But that’s not all—before we wrapped up, we took a fun detour into a conversation about music and surfing. 

This episode is a perfect blend of inspiration and unexpected fun—you won’t want to miss it!

Until next week,

Your favorite co-hosts,
Grace & Nat