Move over, DeFi—ReFi is coming? Gitcoin founder Kevin Owocki has stepped away from DeFi grant-giving machine Gitcoin as it fully decentralizes and is now focused on regenerative finance (huh?) and ReFi incubator Supermodular. He aims to "regenerate the regenerators." He explains it all to Dan Roberts and Liam Kelly, and also talks DAO structure, crypto factions, NFT use cases, his book "Greenpilled," and much more.

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Hosts and guests:

Dan Roberts

Twitter: @readDanwrite

Liam Kelly

Twitter: @liam_gallas

Kevin Owocki

Twitter: @owocki

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