Chase Amante sits down with Levo, an original Mystery Method pickup artist who has been transplanted from the peak of the 2005 seduction community into the strange new world of 2025. After years of marriage and entrepreneurship in big-city Brazil, Levo has returned to the USA unattached and is re-entering the game.
No longer a youthful nightclub hunter, he details his evolved strategies for attracting women, how the rules of dating have fundamentally changed, and what it was like returning to the American cultural and dating scene after so long abroad. We cover everything from modernizing classic game and sexualizing conversations to navigating dating apps, avoiding the "husband zone," and why he now prefers dating women over 30.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
01:23 - Levo’s history with girls and the game
11:44 - Club game and his time in Brazil
18:53 - US cultural shift: strippers then vs. now
27:12 - The true value in pickup: becoming a BETTER man
29:03 - Learning the rules of socialization
33:53 - Seduction models & which work best for whom
35:37 - Why Levo recommends Mystery Method for new guys
38:49 - Adding what’s missing from MM (sexualization)
42:45 - How Levo sexualizes: The “online experience” gambit
45:55 - ONS-oriented vs. “Get a GF”-oriented methods
49:58 - Levo’s upcoming “cruise game” plans
54:58 - Have women become more conservative?
58:57 - Being the cool ‘normal’ guy (not too nice, not bitter)
1:03:01 - Spinning cool job descriptions
1:05:32 - Why target women over 30 vs. younger
1:10:10 - Brief political foray: “4chan vs. Tumblr”
1:13:57 - Negativity & soundbites on social media
1:16:34 - On being non-judgmental and not anti-woman
1:19:09 - Interactions should be fun & non-political
1:20:58 - Making room for deep discussion
1:24:23 - Conversations must be personal and NON-POLITICAL
1:26:12 - Escaping the male logical conversation pattern
1:30:10 - Giving women the right emotions
1:37:10 - Successful guys in mismatched partnerships
1:41:59 - How to avoid the “husband zone”
1:48:01 - Removing your sticking points
1:51:12 - Naturally attractive behaviors you can't engineer
1:55:35 - Using debriefs with lovers to learn
1:58:15 - How to meet “app inexperienced” girls on apps
2:00:41 - Making dating app pictures “tell a story”
2:05:14 - Perspective on marriage after pickup, marriage & divorce
2:09:38 - Women’s fear of emotional infidelity
2:11:42 - Seeking high trust relationships
2:16:21 - On women imprinting from who they date
2:18:11 - Downsides of women knowing you are into PUA
2:24:15 - Perceptions of pickup in different times/places
2:28:12 - How cliques influence results
2:32:19 - Why he doesn't pickup in his cliquish small town
2:36:00 - Transplants seeking connection vs. locals
2:41:10 - Where Levo plans to take his future
Get links mentioned in the podcast and other details here:
https://www.girlschase.com/article/skilled-seducer-month-september-2025-levo
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Chase Amante sits down with Levo, an original Mystery Method pickup artist who has been transplanted from the peak of the 2005 seduction community into the strange new world of 2025. After years of marriage and entrepreneurship in big-city Brazil, Levo has returned to the USA unattached and is re-entering the game.
No longer a youthful nightclub hunter, he details his evolved strategies for attracting women, how the rules of dating have fundamentally changed, and what it was like returning to the American cultural and dating scene after so long abroad. We cover everything from modernizing classic game and sexualizing conversations to navigating dating apps, avoiding the "husband zone," and why he now prefers dating women over 30.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
01:23 - Levo’s history with girls and the game
11:44 - Club game and his time in Brazil
18:53 - US cultural shift: strippers then vs. now
27:12 - The true value in pickup: becoming a BETTER man
29:03 - Learning the rules of socialization
33:53 - Seduction models & which work best for whom
35:37 - Why Levo recommends Mystery Method for new guys
38:49 - Adding what’s missing from MM (sexualization)
42:45 - How Levo sexualizes: The “online experience” gambit
45:55 - ONS-oriented vs. “Get a GF”-oriented methods
49:58 - Levo’s upcoming “cruise game” plans
54:58 - Have women become more conservative?
58:57 - Being the cool ‘normal’ guy (not too nice, not bitter)
1:03:01 - Spinning cool job descriptions
1:05:32 - Why target women over 30 vs. younger
1:10:10 - Brief political foray: “4chan vs. Tumblr”
1:13:57 - Negativity & soundbites on social media
1:16:34 - On being non-judgmental and not anti-woman
1:19:09 - Interactions should be fun & non-political
1:20:58 - Making room for deep discussion
1:24:23 - Conversations must be personal and NON-POLITICAL
1:26:12 - Escaping the male logical conversation pattern
1:30:10 - Giving women the right emotions
1:37:10 - Successful guys in mismatched partnerships
1:41:59 - How to avoid the “husband zone”
1:48:01 - Removing your sticking points
1:51:12 - Naturally attractive behaviors you can't engineer
1:55:35 - Using debriefs with lovers to learn
1:58:15 - How to meet “app inexperienced” girls on apps
2:00:41 - Making dating app pictures “tell a story”
2:05:14 - Perspective on marriage after pickup, marriage & divorce
2:09:38 - Women’s fear of emotional infidelity
2:11:42 - Seeking high trust relationships
2:16:21 - On women imprinting from who they date
2:18:11 - Downsides of women knowing you are into PUA
2:24:15 - Perceptions of pickup in different times/places
2:28:12 - How cliques influence results
2:32:19 - Why he doesn't pickup in his cliquish small town
2:36:00 - Transplants seeking connection vs. locals
2:41:10 - Where Levo plans to take his future
Get links mentioned in the podcast and other details here:
https://www.girlschase.com/article/skilled-seducer-month-september-2025-levo
31: Skilled Seducer of the Month, March 2025: Skills
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2 hours 48 minutes 37 seconds
7 months ago
31: Skilled Seducer of the Month, March 2025: Skills
This month, Chase Amante interviews Skills, the natural turned pickup artist and a long-time pillar of the modern seduction community. Listen as Skills discusses how he developed his game, overcame language barriers, and made his home in seduction.
• 00:00:58: how Skills learned to seduce
• 00:11:23: Skill’s struggle with becoming ‘anti-game’ after club attendance fell
• 00:13:57: when Skills started using seduction gambits – then lays became TOO predictable
• 00:17:03: how Skills recovered from his disappointment after routine game killed the fun
• 00:19:07: picking up Generation Z girls – differences, auto-rejection
• 00:24:02: how Skills got involved in the seduction community and met Alek and Jeff
• 00:29:52: Skills talks humor: uses & misuses in seduction
• 00:34:18: one big mistake many PUAs make with humor
• 00:35:23: naturals’ tendency to be dismissive of unfamiliar techniques
• 00:41:54: the importance of subcommunication to game
• 00:44:34: how to use openers to evaluate girls (then calibrate)
• 00:46:37: Skills on neo-direct (‘no game’ approaches) vs. direct
• 00:48:52: the importance of building relationships with venue staff + how to do
• 00:58:03: naturals with Madonna-whore complex
• 01:04:25: monogamy guys vs. hardcore polyamory guys
• 01:10:18: singing as an attractive honest signal to girls
• 01:14:21: Skills’s ‘competition’ frames for getting with girls
• 01:19:57: Skills’s custom adaptation of Alek Rolstad’s sex talk routines
• 01:27:28: Skills’s approach to building plausible deniability for the pull to his place: “My dog has to like you.”
• 01:28:16: how Skills popularized Alek Rolstad’s 8 Types of Orgasm routine
• 01:31:03: more on Skills’s archetype frame: “being with a Latin guy”
• 01:31:51: how sex talk squares the circle of Gunwitch’s Three Keys
• 01:34:17: the weakness of direct sexual game vs. sex talk seduction
• 01:39:36: “the game is played with the yellows”
• 01:46:14: how changing conditions have made it harder for new guys to get into seduction
• 01:49:33: Skills explains his Autobiography Technique
• 01:53:48: quirks of dealing with Generation Z: comfort, skittishness, sexy yet conservative
• 01:58:30: looksmaxxers at the club, standing around getting no women
• 02:06:33: how the looksmax movement began: an offshoot of the seduction community
• 02:11:46: ways the mentalities of incels/black pill/red pill men prevent them from success
• 02:16:08: why many guys don’t get second encounters with women they sleep with
• 02:17:25: how Skills developed his text flirtation method
• 02:20:43: Skills’s current approach to texting
• 02:24:58: soft vs. hard closes: what they are + how to use them
• 02:27:50: using callback references as a text opener
• 02:29:25: the importance of strong initial interactions to better texting later on
• 02:31:27: when to go for the soft close + how to deal with resistance while texting
Listen on Girls Chase and find links to Skills’s guides and materials here:
https://www.girlschase.com/article/skilled-seducer-month-march-2025-skills
Find Skills on the Skilled Seducer Forum:
https://www.skilledseducer.com/
Or on his website, The Skills Method:
https://www.theskillsmethod.com/
Girls Chase Podcast
Chase Amante sits down with Levo, an original Mystery Method pickup artist who has been transplanted from the peak of the 2005 seduction community into the strange new world of 2025. After years of marriage and entrepreneurship in big-city Brazil, Levo has returned to the USA unattached and is re-entering the game.
No longer a youthful nightclub hunter, he details his evolved strategies for attracting women, how the rules of dating have fundamentally changed, and what it was like returning to the American cultural and dating scene after so long abroad. We cover everything from modernizing classic game and sexualizing conversations to navigating dating apps, avoiding the "husband zone," and why he now prefers dating women over 30.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
01:23 - Levo’s history with girls and the game
11:44 - Club game and his time in Brazil
18:53 - US cultural shift: strippers then vs. now
27:12 - The true value in pickup: becoming a BETTER man
29:03 - Learning the rules of socialization
33:53 - Seduction models & which work best for whom
35:37 - Why Levo recommends Mystery Method for new guys
38:49 - Adding what’s missing from MM (sexualization)
42:45 - How Levo sexualizes: The “online experience” gambit
45:55 - ONS-oriented vs. “Get a GF”-oriented methods
49:58 - Levo’s upcoming “cruise game” plans
54:58 - Have women become more conservative?
58:57 - Being the cool ‘normal’ guy (not too nice, not bitter)
1:03:01 - Spinning cool job descriptions
1:05:32 - Why target women over 30 vs. younger
1:10:10 - Brief political foray: “4chan vs. Tumblr”
1:13:57 - Negativity & soundbites on social media
1:16:34 - On being non-judgmental and not anti-woman
1:19:09 - Interactions should be fun & non-political
1:20:58 - Making room for deep discussion
1:24:23 - Conversations must be personal and NON-POLITICAL
1:26:12 - Escaping the male logical conversation pattern
1:30:10 - Giving women the right emotions
1:37:10 - Successful guys in mismatched partnerships
1:41:59 - How to avoid the “husband zone”
1:48:01 - Removing your sticking points
1:51:12 - Naturally attractive behaviors you can't engineer
1:55:35 - Using debriefs with lovers to learn
1:58:15 - How to meet “app inexperienced” girls on apps
2:00:41 - Making dating app pictures “tell a story”
2:05:14 - Perspective on marriage after pickup, marriage & divorce
2:09:38 - Women’s fear of emotional infidelity
2:11:42 - Seeking high trust relationships
2:16:21 - On women imprinting from who they date
2:18:11 - Downsides of women knowing you are into PUA
2:24:15 - Perceptions of pickup in different times/places
2:28:12 - How cliques influence results
2:32:19 - Why he doesn't pickup in his cliquish small town
2:36:00 - Transplants seeking connection vs. locals
2:41:10 - Where Levo plans to take his future
Get links mentioned in the podcast and other details here:
https://www.girlschase.com/article/skilled-seducer-month-september-2025-levo