To support Ukraine in fighting Russia’s aggression, the EU moved fast and displayed unprecedented unity. A big challenge, considering that all foreign policy decisions must be made unanimously by Member States. But what if the EU is on the road to change? Europe's answer to Russia's attack was historical: thirteen rounds of sanctions against Russia and hundreds of billions of euros in military and humanitarian aid to Ukraine were unprecedented measures. But will this momentum translate into something more? We asked Susi Dennison, senior policy fellow at the European Council on Foreign relations, and Peter Stano, the EU foreign policy spokesperson, who join us for this week's episode of « Getting there ».