In this episode of 'Getting in TV,’ I’m joined by David Campbell, the creator of the 'Pictures and Patter' podcast, to discuss his journey in the television industry. We delve into the BBC's Assistant Producer Accelerator Programme (APAP), how it benefited both of our careers, and the challenging transition from researcher to assistant producer. David shares his personal career path, including his struggle with law school, teaching, and ultimately finding his passion in TV, emphasising the importance of training programs like APAP and Channel 4's production training scheme in bridging the talent gap. They also touch on the hurdles faced by working-class individuals entering the industry, the significance of development work in TV, and the impact of maintaining personal boundaries and managing stress. The discussion concludes with insights on the Scottish TV industry and advice for aspiring TV professionals.

00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

00:42 Discussing the APAP Experience

03:36 David's Career Journey

07:04 Challenges in the TV Industry

09:59 Importance of Training and Schemes

11:15 Balancing Work and Personal Projects

13:44 Passion for Development

19:34 Navigating the Initial Stages of TV Development

20:58 Embracing Rejection and Staying Positive

22:37 Balancing Work and Personal Life

23:19 Advice for Aspiring TV Professionals

26:37 Exploring the Scottish TV Industry

30:36 The Impact of Working on Dragon's Den

32:54 Challenges and Rewards in the TV Industry

35:38 Current TV and Film Recommendations

38:43 Final Thoughts and Farewell