As you'll hear in the first moments of this conversation, Charlie grew up in a household where Svend Robinson was revered as the Burnaby Member of Parliament who got Mom’s disability payments from a recalcitrant federal bureaucracy, and over the decades Demers' esteem for the man has only grown.

On episode 13 of Full of Chit-Chat they talk about his 25 years of experience as a parliamentarian, his post-MP life and activism since 2004 and much more.

For more on the history of Svend's 1979-2004 politics career see https://www.ourcommons.ca/Members/en/svend-robinson(1417)

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