On a new episode two pals with 9 generations in Vancouver between them sit down for a conversation about geography, memory and family as Kai Nagata joins host Charlie Demers to talk about what it means to have deep roots in a place you’re not Indigenous to, the broad range of PNE-related memories & where to look for (& contribute to building) hope.

For more about Kai go to https://kainagata.com/

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