Critics called Joel Schumacher’s 8MM (1999) “sleazy, appalling, and exploitative.” With Nicolas Cage as a private investigator dragged into the world of underground snuff films, James Gandolfini at his sleaziest, and a young Joaquin Phoenix in one of his earliest breakout roles, the movie was condemned as too dark and disturbing for the 1990s. But does 8MM deserve its reputation as sleaze cinema, or is it a misunderstood neo-noir about cursed destinies and the abyss staring back? On this episode of Four Play, Richard, Thorin, and Monte debate Cage’s performance, the film’s noir roots, and how it compares to other notorious “snuff myth” films like Hardcore, Faces of Death, and Cannibal Holocaust.