From Headingley, Forty20's Phil Caplan speaks to Professor Tony Collins about his new book, Roy Francis: Rugby’s Forgotten Black Leader, on the life and times of one of Rugby League's most significant historical figures, from his playing days, move into coaching and influence, as well as the issues he faced on and off the field. They are also joined by one of Roy's sons, Ian, who shares some of his recollections of his father. The book is available now, and make sure you order it from your local independent book shop! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices