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Today, I’m joined by Niamh McCarthy, Senior Director of Climate-Related Risk, and Alexandre Köberle, Senior Fellow at Orbitas—an initiative of Climate Advisors. We explore their report Room to Grow: The Economic Case for Forest Restoration in Brazil, showing how climate transitions open new investment pathways in Brazil’s land economy. Orbitas’ scenario analysis quantifies financial risks and opportunities in forestry and agriculture, revealing a $141 billion restoration potential and 369,000 new jobs by 2050. Niamh and Alexandre share where large-scale restoration makes economic sense, how blended finance, green bonds, and carbon markets are evolving, and why local expertise and due diligence are vital for investors in Brazil.
What’s exciting about restoration in Brazil is that it represents an investment opportunity that’s both profitable and a genuine climate solution. - Niamh
Brazil could actually become a net negative emissions country, exporting negative emissions to the rest of the world — that’s how large the potential for carbon sequestration is. - Alexandre
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[2:42] What Orbitas does — assessing climate-related risks and opportunities
[6:21] Scenario analysis and transition risk explained
[7:23] Using TCFD framework and standard terminology
[9:22] Brazil report — “Room to Grow: The Economic Case for Forest Restoration”
[10:08] Methodology and headline findings
[11:27] Agricultural drivers and degraded pasturelands
[12:23] Profitability and financing mechanisms
[13:37] Political will and policy alignment in Brazil
[14:43] Surprises and confirmations in the analysis
[17:01] Why focus on Brazil versus other countries
[19:15] Regional focus — where restoration makes most sense
[21:19] Importance of the Amazon and Cerrado ecosystems
[23:10] Hydrological and climate resilience links
[26:14] Investment risk, transparency, and blended finance
[30:35] Restoration archetypes and financing mechanisms
[33:39] Emerging trends — agroforestry and new markets
[35:35] Carbon markets, ETS, and biodiversity credits
[39:12] How climate transitions affect profitability
[42:29] Market proximity and economic feasibility
[43:00] What investors should ask before investing
[45:15] Importance of due diligence and local partnerships
[46:10] Calls to action for government and corporations
[48:49] Policy implementation and land governance challenges
[50:30] Role of other stakeholders and communities
[51:34] Ensuring fair distribution of returns
[52:22] Corporate responsibility and supply chain influence
[54:18] Profitability even without strong transitions
[55:06] Final advice for new forest investors
[57:10] Building trust and long-term partnerships
[57:38] Closing thoughts and where to learn more
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