In this episode we are joined by two police chaplains who together with Jenna Flanagan from Oscar Kilo, the police wellbeing service, talk about how to look after police officers when the incident is over. They talk with great compassion and poignancy about the murder of three young girls at a dance class in Southport in August 2024 and the police response to the public disorder that followed. National Police Chaplain Matthew Hopley leads this conversation which continues the theme of learning from the summer 2024 riots, as our panel share how chaplaincy and wellbeing are at the heart of recovery. Speakers: Catherine Levin, host Matthew Hopley, National Police Chaplain John McCarthy, Merseyside Police Chaplain Jenna Flanagan, Oscar Kilo This episode is sponsored by MSA Safety The views expressed in this episode are those of the individual speakers. MSA Safety is not responsible for the content of this episode and does not warrant its accuracy or completeness.   CPD accreditation from CPDme This episode is worth 0.5 CPD points. To collect your certificate email team@emergencyservicestimes.com. Download the free CPDme app to document your learning, reflect on how it aligns with your goals, and defend your decision-making when evidencing your CPD. The app provides a structured approach to capturing your reflections, making it easier to showcase your growth and meet professional standards. A copy of this certificate will also be added to the app when you request a free account.