In a first for the The Emergency Services Show, we built a podcast studio on the show floor. Set up to give the Emergency Services Times team the chance to interview guests from across the blue lights, the schedule was eclectic and with silent disco headphones on hand, visitors could listen in. And now you can hear some of the interviews too.  In this episode, EST Editor Catherine Levin talks to the new chief of the National Police Air Service, Fiona Gaffney and David Walters, Head of Futures and Innovation. It is a wide-ranging interview where they talk about how NPAS operates and its bold vision for the future of aerial policing. It's one that involves using uncrewed aircraft and they share how the pilot to introduce this capability into policing is going. Speakers: Catherine Levin, Emergency Services Times Chief Superintendent Fiona Gaffney, NPAS David Walters, NPAS This episode is sponsored by MSA Safety The views expressed in this episode are those of the individual speakers. MSA Safety is not responsible for the content of this episode and does not warrant its accuracy or completeness.   CPD accreditation from CPDme This episode is worth 0.5 CPD points. To collect your certificate email team@emergencyservicestimes.com. Download the free CPDme app to document your learning, reflect on how it aligns with your goals, and defend your decision-making when evidencing your CPD. The app provides a structured approach to capturing your reflections, making it easier to showcase your growth and meet professional standards. A copy of this certificate will also be added to the app when you request a free account.