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Follow the Rabbit
Igor Schwarzmann, Johannes Kleske
51 episodes
2 days ago
Follow the Rabbit feels like eavesdropping on a fascinating conversation between two well-read friends at a Berlin coffee shop—smart without being pretentious, critical without being cynical, and deeply engaged with contemporary culture while maintaining historical perspective. The podcast occupies a unique space between trend forecasting, cultural criticism, and philosophical inquiry, delivered with warmth, humor, and genuine enthusiasm for understanding how the world works.
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Follow the Rabbit feels like eavesdropping on a fascinating conversation between two well-read friends at a Berlin coffee shop—smart without being pretentious, critical without being cynical, and deeply engaged with contemporary culture while maintaining historical perspective. The podcast occupies a unique space between trend forecasting, cultural criticism, and philosophical inquiry, delivered with warmth, humor, and genuine enthusiasm for understanding how the world works.
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Adventures in Cultural Strategy with Amy Daroukakis
Follow the Rabbit
58 minutes 37 seconds
7 months ago
Adventures in Cultural Strategy with Amy Daroukakis

What happens when 90% of our cultural insights come from just 10 cities? 

In this episode of Follow the Rabbit, Igor and Johannes welcome cultural strategist Amy Daroukakis, who shares her provocative thesis that 90% of trend reports come from just 10 cities in the world—creating a homogenized view of culture that fails to capture global diversity. With 20 years of experience working across 60+ countries, Amy offers insight into how this narrow lens affects everything from business decisions to physical spaces.

The conversation explores how true curiosity has become the essential skill in an age of AI and algorithm-driven content. Through stories spanning Korean kimchi robots to secret trend rooms for major retailers, they unpack how human storytelling and cultural context provide what AI cannot: meaningful connections between seemingly disparate elements.

Key themes include:

  • The problem with current trend reporting and its bias toward Western/Global North perspectives
  • Amy's project to gather 52 diverse global voices for 2025 cultural insights
  • How curiosity becomes both a personal practice and a professional advantage
  • The challenges of translating cultural trends into actionable business strategies
  • Why the ability to make connections across contexts becomes increasingly valuable as AI handles the mundane


This thoughtful discussion reveals how to move beyond "trends for trends' sake" toward deeper cultural understanding—and why your ability to get lost in rabbit holes might be your most valuable asset in the coming era.


Chapters:

00:00 - Introduction & Amy's Background

05:17 - The Problem with Global Trend Reports

08:53 - Building the Trend Folder & Democratizing Information

12:00 - Curiosity vs Professional Interest in Trends

14:34 - The Challenge of Being Curious in Organizations

16:16 - Human Storytelling vs AI in Cultural Insights

21:44 - The Disconnect Between Research and Application

23:23 - Target's Secret Trend Rooms: A Personal Story

25:32 - From Ta-Da Presentations to Co-Curiosity Building

28:00 - AI Tools and the Value of Human Curiosity

30:12 - From Technology Trends to Cultural Phenomena

31:52 - What Trend Reports Reveal About Companies

35:56 - Kimchi Robots: Connecting Culture and Innovation

39:46 - Multiple Truths: Everything Everywhere All at Once

43:21 - Honest Conversations About Organizational Speed

46:18 - Curiosity as the Key Skill in the Age of AI

49:26 - Finding Connections in Chaos

54:30 - Sensory Approaches to Cultural Understanding

56:35 - Closing Thoughts: Trends as Manifestations of Curiosity


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Follow the Rabbit
Follow the Rabbit feels like eavesdropping on a fascinating conversation between two well-read friends at a Berlin coffee shop—smart without being pretentious, critical without being cynical, and deeply engaged with contemporary culture while maintaining historical perspective. The podcast occupies a unique space between trend forecasting, cultural criticism, and philosophical inquiry, delivered with warmth, humor, and genuine enthusiasm for understanding how the world works.