Sound legend George Stavro (founder of Sonic Lab Audio; longtime Integral Sound partner) joins Seth & Bill to break down why modern clubbing feels so 2D, how DJs started mixing with their eyes instead of their ears, and what actually happens when you slam everything into the red (clipping). We dig into iconic rooms (Twilo, Vinyl/Sound Factory, Cocoon, Womb, DC10, Stereo), the “original edgers” of marathon DJ sets, and the lost art of volume control and programming. If you’ve ever wondered why some nights feel euphoric without melting your face off…this episode is your masterclass.

Guest: George Stavro — Sonic Lab Audio / Integral Sound. Renowned for large-scale dance music installs and festival systems, with work spanning clubs like DC10 (Ibiza) and Cocoon (Frankfurt).

Quick hits

• Focused, circular dance floors vs. forward-facing “phone era” crowds
• Why meters ≠ loudness (voltage vs. perceived level)
• Clipping 101: why “louder” often means “worse”
• The Yuri/Rane era: mixing by ear, not by waveform
• How sound teams and DJs collaborate (or fight) in the booth
• Volume as tension: building crescendos without fatigue
• Long sets, patience, and why we don’t get those eruptions anymore

Hosts: Seth Troxler and Bill Patrick
Executive Producers: Nikita Stanley, Jesse Rogg, Craig Pettigrew and Seth Troxler 
Co-executive Producer: Lee Adams
Live Production Director and VFX & Motion Graphics Supervisor: Aaron Kulik 
Director of Photography: Lukas Strebel 
Set Designer: Veronica Gessa (aka Moki) 
Editor: Tyler Christie
Sound Design and Original Composition by Jasper Van Dijk
Music Supervisors: Seth Troxler, Bill Patrick
Music Consultants: Jenna Wilson for Radish and James Cartwright for Bad Sneakers
Music Courtesy of: APM
Camera operator: Joseph Holton 
Camera assistant: Jake Smith
Production Sound Mixer: Jo Youle