In this episode Andy and Tom are joined by Richard and Jeff and their dulcet American tones to talk about why it's not just about the money! Richard and Jeff are the authors of It's Not Just About the Money but their new book, It's Not Just About the Donor explores the best practice blueprint for major gifts managers worldwide.

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