In this episode, Ash and Marisa get brutally honest about their evolving relationships with alcohol. From leaning on it as new moms and in work culture, to choosing health and productivity over the next glass. They unpack how social pressure, male-dominated industries, and client networking often normalize excessive drinking, and share the strategies that helped them take back control: mindful consumption, non-alcoholic swaps, and setting clear intentions. Whether you’re navigating parenthood, leadership, or simply trying to feel sharper the next day, this conversation is a refreshing reminder that you don’t need alcohol to connect, succeed, or thrive.