Srna and Jackie are back, rocking their matching hospital-chic sets (catch it on Spotify) and breaking down what it really takes to speak up and stand up for yourself.

In this 23-minute episode, the besties share how they went from chronic people-pleasers to finally speaking up, leaving some people a little surprised. They’re unpacking why it hits different for women to speak up (especially at work) and how to handle those energy vampires (we all know a few). Plus, they get real on why it’s key to watch how people react when you share your wins.

Then, they get into why career confidence doesn’t always translate to relationships. And are we sometimes afraid to speak up because we think something might be taken away from us? The besties discuss.

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