We have a thought-provoking dialogue on the intricacies of abortion, questioning the societal norms and dissecting the moral implications. The conversation illuminates the importance of liturgy, its transformative power, and how storytelling, beauty, and art can evangelize in an increasingly secular world. We discuss the practicalities and philosophies surrounding family planning, highlighting real-life anecdotes that challenge our modern perceptions. A significant part of out discussion focuses on the controversial topic of the abortion pill, shedding light on the Trump administration's passive approach and the wider societal impact. Featuring: Fr. Simon Esshaki, Fr. Augustine, Abbot Ankido Sipo, Fr. Christopher Somo