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Famous Failures
Ozan Varol
70 episodes
5 days ago
On Famous Failures, I interview the world's most interesting people about their failures and what they learned from them.
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On Famous Failures, I interview the world's most interesting people about their failures and what they learned from them.
Show more...
Business
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Cathy Heller on the Power of Radical Empathy
Famous Failures
31 minutes 37 seconds
5 years ago
Cathy Heller on the Power of Radical Empathy

Cathy Heller is the host of the popular podcast Don’t Keep Your Day Job, which was given the #1 spot on iTunes recommended list of shows for the New Year in 2018 and 2019. She started out as a singer songwriter and first found success licensing her music to TV, films and ads. After making a multi six figure living with her music, Cathy started a music agency, and began teaching other artists to grow their own careers.

You can subscribe to Cathy’s podcast at https://www.dontkeepyourdayjob.com/podcast or through your favorite service, and follow her on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/cathy.heller/

In this episode Cathy and I discuss:

  • Her heartbreaking experience of being dropped from two record labels
  • The lesson we should learn from the Covid-19 crisis
  • How Cathy found her passion through a series of day jobs
  • How Cathy grew an immensely successful online business without knowing how to make an online business work
  • Why you need to give yourself permission to be mediocre
  • How Cathy allows her authentic self to shine through
  • What Cathy thinks our greatest human need is
  • The life lessons Cathy is still trying to learn
Famous Failures
On Famous Failures, I interview the world's most interesting people about their failures and what they learned from them.