Tamara's sister Pamela and Pamela's daughter Helen, were murdered by Pamela's other daughter, Megan, who staged the scene to look like a murder/suicide. But with the purported abuse that Pam dealt out to everyone in the family, Tamara feels very mixed emotions about how her sister and her family should be remembered. Guest: Dr Leslie Dobson, a clinical and forensic psychologist in California., specializing in violent crimes and severe mental illness, sexual violence, mass murder and serial killings that can be within prisons and state hospitals. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices