In this interview Faisal talks about the three ways in which people learn, understand and perceive: through the head, the heart and the belly. The head-oriented people (numbers 5, 6 and 7 in the Enneagram) have a very developed mind. They gather knowledge and are fascinated by it and learn in this way. The heart-oriented people (number 2, 3 and 4) are emotional. They understand when they connect to a feeling about something. They “understand” through music, images and visualization. The belly-oriented people (number 8, 9, and 1) loves the body and sports such as Qigong, Aikido or Tai-Chi. They may like Zen, because that way they can sense the suchness of things. The different intelligences are equivalent. The diamond body or objective consciousness endows us with inner guidance and distance from these typical modes of perception. Thus, it becomes possible to learn through all three centers. In time the heart balances all three.