A follow up conversation from the last episode. This episode features Eleni Ieremia, as well as Bergen based D.J & musician Inish.  Inish Sofia Hedén Næss, known simply as Inish, also runs the record label Spirals based in Bergen.  Inish was a participant in the F.U.C (& K) workshop , a workshop initiated by artist Elind Rui Blix which took place in Bergen in spring 2021. The conversation starts with a "re-cap" of the previous episode's ideas and subject matter, followed by a discussion of safe creative environments; a workshop Ruth participated in with Thomas Hirschhorn once; a rant against contemporary trends in Shakespeare adaptions by James ( sure to trigger many a literature enthusiast) as well as a discussion on the 2021 Disney film Cruella.