Fase II Fase, hosted by Jesse Callaert (Nederlands Dans Theater) is a series of ongoing interviews with artists across multiple disciplines and art forms. Peek into the minds of creators and performers transitioning from one phase to another and learn about the insecurities, challenges and realities behind their art and passion.  

While battling a world-wide pandemic, various lockdowns and restrictions, Jesse was lucky to be able to sit down and have some incredibly insightful, deep and sometimes funny conversations with friends and artists that inspire him. 

If you enjoy the series, you can subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcast and anywhere else where you can listen to podcasts.