In this powerhouse episode of The Extreme Personal Finance Show, Chris sits down with personal finance legend and podcasting icon Joe Saul-Sehy—host of Stacking Benjamins and co-author of Stacked: Your Super-Serious Guide to Modern Money Management.

They dive into:

• How humor and storytelling can supercharge financial learning
• Why most financial advice is either too serious, too salesy, or straight-up wrong
• The truth about doing it all yourself (spoiler: just because you're smart enough doesn’t mean you should)
• Joe’s wake-up call after blowing his first tax year as a new financial advisor
• His take on FIRE, community, “happy money,” and how to fuse your future goals with your present habits
• Why your systems matter more than your willpower
• The most powerful money mindset shift Joe ever made (and how it can change your life too)

Plus, personal stories, board games, running marathons, and the truth about that runner’s high. This episode is for anyone who wants financial freedom without the financial snobbery.

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Connect with Joe

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-stacking-benjamins-show/id650045209

https://www.instagram.com/averagejoemoney

https://www.facebook.com/jsaulsehy

Resources and Links:

Why Having Fun Is the Secret to a Healthier Life | Catherine Price | TED

https://youtu.be/iMBJrvEwv8s?si=Jrnzggl89jKydN5B

Twin Cities Stacking Benjamins Meetup Group

https://www.facebook.com/share/g/1AziMX4ydn/

Join or Die Film

https://www.joinordiefilm.com
King Tut by Steve Martin

https://youtu.be/FYbavuReVF4?si=tS36RReiIoEwQ2VW

Why Paying for Professional Retirement Asset Management May Be Worth It

https://heavymetal.money/financialadvisor/

The Jaimie Dimon Interview - Summer 2025
https://youtu.be/AR_1IPhzAtU?si=4Q3YG4l-KadCKCpz

How To Make $100M Dollars in 2025 (with Alex Hormozi) Part 1 & 2

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-stacking-benjamins-show/id650045209?i=1000682302745

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-stacking-benjamins-show/id650045209?i=1000682511271

Understanding Your Financial Roadmap (with Nick Maggiulli) SB1712

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-stacking-benjamins-show/id650045209?i=1000718574702

Of Dollars And Data blog

https://ofdollarsanddata.com

THE RETIREMENT ANSWER MAN® SHOW

https://www.rogerwhitney.com

Ken Honda

https://kenhonda.com

Happy Money: The Japanese Art of Making Peace with Your Money Paperback by Ken Honda

https://amzn.to/4mqHIWu

Paula Pant

https://affordanything.com

Catching Up to FI - Financial Independence For Late Starters

https://catchinguptofi.com

Dr. Jordan Grumet 

https://jordangrumet.com

The Earn & Invest Podcast 

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/earn-invest/id1440355498

Gen Con

https://www.gencon.com/aboutus

Gen Con Indy. largest and longest-running game convention, held annually in Indianapolis. It’s a four-day event that attracts tens of thousands of attendees and features a wide variety of tabletop, card, and video games, as well as seminars, art shows, and other related events. 

Three Tales of Financial Triumph (with Jonathan Clements)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlsaUxfksy8

Humble Dollar 

https://humbledollar.com/about/

Retirement Starts Today Podcast by Benjamin Brandt

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/retirement-starts-today/id1052378769

Run Disney

https://www.rundisney.com/

Avowed is a first-person fantasy RPG set in the world of Eora, where your choices carve a path through war, intrigue, and ancient mysteries. Navigate a land in turmoil, forge powerful alliances or deadly rivalries, and wield magic and steel to shape the fate of the Living Lands—and your own destiny.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2457220/Avowed/

Jesse Cramer

https://bestinterest.blog/personal-finance-for-long-term-investors/