Meet Shira Kates, a design leader at Google, ambiguity expert, curiosity pioneer, partner, and mother of two. Shira grew up in New England in a family of academics; most of her family either have PhDs and/or were/are college professors. So, needless to say, the curiosity and life-long learner genes run DEEP.

In this episode, we discuss Shira’s move to the Bay Area in 1997, right at the height of the (O.G.) Dot Com boom and how she got swept up in the ensuing hiring spree, doing just about anything she was asked to do. Like many DMBAs, Shira’s a master of ambiguity, and often took on roles that she was probably under-qualified for, but learned quickly and excelled at just about everything thrown her way.