You cannot seem to escape it, church scandal after church scandal, with no clear end in sight. It should not surprise us that church attendance in the Unites States is dropping, and quickly.

How do we fix it? How do we create a church that is good and one that fulfills its purpose? In 2020 Scot and Laura published their book, "A Church Called Tov" discussing some of these pressing issues surrounding the church. On Sept 19th their latest book "Pivot: The Priorities, Practices, and Powers That Can Transform Your Church into a Tov Culture" will be available. Scot and Laura join Aaron to discuss what are some of the practices to help craft a church into a Tov culture, what can one do who is not in leadership in a church in this vision, and what do we do with power and authority (when it is often used so poorly)?