What happens when curiosity meets compassion and data meets horsemanship? In this inspiring episode, Rupert Isaacson speaks with Dr. Pebbles Turbeville, CEO of the Horses and Humans Research Foundation (HHRF) — an organization that funds groundbreaking studies proving the power of horse-human interactions. For nearly two decades, HHRF has legitimized and advanced the field of equine-assisted services through rigorous, peer-reviewed research, helping programs worldwide access funding and credibility.
Pebbles shares the foundation's origins, from founder Molly Sweeney's question of how horses help humans to the global network of researchers and practitioners now carrying that torch. Together, she and Rupert explore the science behind equine-assisted therapy, innovative studies linking brain scans to equine activity, and the growing focus on equine well-being — because healing must go both ways.
If you’re in the equine-assisted world, this episode is your guide to the data, ethics, and compassion shaping the future of our field.
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✨ “When we make horses healthier and happier, we make humans healthier and happier, too.” – Dr. Pebbles Turbeville
✨ “Research legitimizes what we do. It helps the world see that playing with ponies is powerful medicine.” – Rupert Isaacson
🔍 What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
🎤 Memorable Moments from the Episode:
📚 Contact, Projects, Thinkers, and Ideas Mentioned:
Horses and Humans Research Foundation (HHRF) – https://horsesandhumans.org
Dr. Pebbles Turbeville – CEO, Horses and Humans Research Foundation
Dr. Molly Sweeney – Founder, HHRF
Dr. Steven Peters – Keynote Speaker, HHRF Conference 2026
Dr. Helen Sharp – Research collaborator and educator
Dr. Beth Lanning, Baylor University – Neuroscience-based equine studies
Christina Wilkins – Equitation Science & Five Domains Course
Square Peg Foundation – https://www.squarepegfoundation.org
Horse Boy Method, Movement Method & Takhin Equine Integration – https://ntls.co
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What happens when autism transforms not just a child’s life, but an entire family’s purpose? In this heartwarming episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson speaks with Monique and Cees Jan Timmermans from the Netherlands about their son Stan’s remarkable journey — from dolphin therapy in Curaçao to finding peace and communication through horses.
Monique, founder of InKompassie, shares how her family’s experience with autism inspired her to build a holistic equine-assisted practice that helps other families find balance, regulation, and hope. Together with her husband Ian, she reflects on the lessons they’ve learned about parenting, partnership, and letting go of expectations while embracing the beauty of the present moment.
From dolphins to horses, deep pressure to patience, and family dynamics to neuroplasticity — this episode explores how compassion, movement, and nature can rewire both brain and heart.
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✨ “When you look with compassion — at your child, your partner, and yourself — healing begins.” – Monique Timmermans
✨ “Stu does things when he is ready. You can’t push it; you just have to recognize the moment.” – Ian Timmermans
🔍 What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
🎙️ Memorable Moments:
📚 Contact, Projects & Resources Mentioned:
Monique Timmermans – InKompassie (Equine-Assisted Practice, Netherlands) – https://inkompassie.nl
Dolphin Therapy Center – Curaçao Dolphin Therapy & Research Center (CDTC)
Temple Grandin – Author, Autism Advocate
Horse Boy Method Horse Boy Method, Movement Method & Takhin Equine Integration – https://ntls.co
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New Trails Learning Systems
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When most people think of the Thoroughbred industry, they picture racing, speed, and high stakes. But what happens to these horses after the finish line? And could their intelligence, courage, and sensitivity make them perfect partners in equine-assisted work?
✨ “It’s a win-win situation for the equine-assisted world and for the Thoroughbred world — an opportunity to give back to society in a meaningful way.” – Suzi Pritchard-Jones
✨ “Any living creature is made up of energy. Unless you can express that energy, it gets bottled up and becomes destructive.” – Suzi Pritchard-Jones
In this compelling episode, Rupert Isaacson speaks with Suzi Pritchard-Jones — a breeder and advocate working to bridge the gap between the racing world and the equine-assisted community. Suzi shares her vision for a more humane future for Thoroughbreds, both during their careers and beyond, where welfare, horsemanship, and second careers in therapy and education take center stage.
From Ireland to Florida to the UK, Suzi is pushing for change within an industry often misunderstood and criticized, championing transparency, accountability, and empathy for one of the world’s most athletic and misunderstood breeds. Together, she and Rupert explore how Thoroughbreds — once the engine of civilization — can once again serve humanity through healing, learning, and connection.
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🔍 What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
🎙️ Memorable Moments from the Episode:
📚 Contact, Projects, Thinkers, and Ideas Mentioned:
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New Trails Learning Systems
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Facebook: https://facebook.com/horseboyworld
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When doctors advised abortion after a devastating prenatal diagnosis, Gitti and Henrich Berkhoff chose a different path. Their son Julian was born with spina bifida and hydrocephalus, enduring multiple life-threatening surgeries. Against all odds, Julian not only survived but thrived—becoming a rider, public speaker, and inspiration.
Out of this journey, Gitti built one of Germany’s most innovative equine-assisted programs, blending neuroscience, horsemanship, and joy. From wheelchair fox hunting to pillow fights on horseback and even toilet-brush “microphone” interviews, her farm is a living testament to humor, creativity, and resilience.
Now, as she and her husband bring equine-assisted therapy to the German parliament, Gitti shares how horses, family, and a belief in joy over suffering reshaped her life—and how they can reshape equine therapy itself.
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✨ “If you have something that makes you happy and you share it, then it grows. That gives you energy.” – Gitti Berkhoff
✨ “If you are not consciously creating joy, you may be unconsciously creating suffering.” – Rupert Isaacson
🔍 What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
🎙️ Memorable Moments from the Episode:
📚 Contact, Projects, Thinkers, and Ideas Mentioned:
🌍 See All of Rupert’s Programs and Shows:
Website: https://rupertisaacson.com
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New Trails Learning Systems
Website: https://ntls.co
Facebook: https://facebook.com/horseboyworld
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From a childhood marked by abandonment in Australia to building a groundbreaking equine-assisted program in New Mexico, Dr. Rebecca Evanko’s story is one of resilience, survival, and transformation. Joined by her husband, physician Dr. Marc Evanko, the two share how their own neurodivergence—autism and ADHD—shaped Wilder Wood Equine Therapy, a program centering female autism and authentic connection with horses.
Together they discuss the creation of WRADIANCE©, a new diagnostic tool designed by autistic women for autistic women, and their unique counseling model that blends equine interaction with trauma-informed, neurodivergent-led support.
✨ “For the first time, I said to myself: I’m not a problem. I’m autistic. I think differently.” – Dr. Rebecca Evanko
✨ “There’s nothing wrong with either operating system—Android or Apple. They both work. It’s just different.” – Dr. Marc Evanko
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🔍 What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
🎙️ Memorable Moments from the Episode:
📚 Projects, Thinkers, and Ideas Mentioned:
🌍 See All of Rupert’s Programs and Shows:
Website: https://rupertisaacson.com
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New Trails Learning Systems:
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Facebook: https://facebook.com/horseboyworld
Instagram: https://instagram.com/horseboyworld
YouTube: https://youtube.com/newtrailslearningsystems
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“Being attuned to hesitation is what allows for finding the next step.” – Dr. Mark UrangaIn this episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson is joined by Dr. Mark Uranga, a pediatrician from Boise, Idaho, with deep Basque roots and a lifelong connection to horses and mules. Blending his medical expertise with his equestrian experience, Dr. Uranga explores how resilience, community, and attunement shape both childhood development and equine-assisted practices.
From the cultural heritage of the Basque people to the sure-footed wisdom of mules, this conversation dives into what resilience really means, why attunement is vital in pediatrics and horsemanship, and how nature and equines offer healing pathways beyond clinical walls.
✨ What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
🌟 Memorable Moments from the Episode:
🤝 Connect with Dr. Mark Uranga:
🎙️ Podcast: The Kid Wrangler (Spotify)
📧 Email: theidahokidwrangler@gmail.com
🌐 Warm Springs Care Farm (Boise, ID): https://www.warmspringscarefarm.org/
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Rupert Isaacson: https://rupertisaacson.com
Equine-Assisted Programs: https://newtrailslearning.com
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In this episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson sits down with Dr. Janet Varhus, DVM—a veterinarian whose decades of practice bridge old-school horsemanship, holistic care, and cutting-edge therapies like acupuncture, fascia release, and low-level laser treatment. From endurance riding roots to working alongside Linda Tellington-Jones, Dr. Varhus offers a rare, practical roadmap through the complex world of equine health.
Together, they explore ulcers, fascia, posture, contaminated feeds, and how barns can combine tradition with holistic practices to keep therapy horses sound, safe, and thriving.
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✨ What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
🌟 Memorable Moments from the Episode:
🤝 Connect with Dr. Janet Varhus, DVM:
Email: jvarhusdvm@yahoo.com
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Rupert Isaacson: https://rupertisaacson.com
Equine-Assisted Programs: https://newtrailslearning.com
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Facebook: https://facebook.com/horseboyworld
Instagram: https://instagram.com/horseboyworld
YouTube: https://youtube.com/newtrailslearningsystems
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In this essential episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson sits down with Dr. Temple Grandin, one of the world’s most influential voices on autism, sensory processing, and practical approaches to learning and healing. Together, they explore how therapeutic riding centers can do more than just offer horse time—they can create whole environments of sensory safety, meaningful skill-building, and community resilience.
Dr. Grandin shares her personal experiences growing up autistic, her early fears and breakthroughs, and the real-life tools that helped her thrive—tools that every equine program can apply. From using turn-taking games to stimulate speech to setting up repair shops and greeter stations to build confidence and career readiness, this episode is a blueprint for any equine-assisted center aiming to have deeper impact.
If you want to support the show, you can do so at Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/LongRideHome
✨ What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
The Power of Observation & Following the Child (Starts at 01:00)
Equine Interaction & Sensory Patterns (Starts at 04:00)
Early Intervention with Church Play & Library Play (Starts at 07:00)
Theory of Mind & Naturalistic Learning (Starts at 08:30)
High Expectations with Support (Starts at 14:00)
Practical Skills, Tools & Trades (Starts at 20:00)
Rebuilding the Workshop Culture (Starts at 28:00)
Structured Responsibility Around the Barn (Starts at 34:00)
Social Skills Training through Greeting & Selling (Starts at 43:00)
Job Skills, Routine & Community Integration (Starts at 51:00)
The Cost of Screen Time & the Value of Movement (Starts at 54:00)
Cognitive, Motor & Emotional Growth Through Challenge (Starts at 59:00)
Medication, Anxiety & Exercise (Starts at 67:00)
🌟 Memorable Moments from the Episode:
🤝 Connect with Dr. Temple Grandin: Website: https://www.templegrandin.com Books: Thinking in Pictures, Visual Thinking, The Autistic Brain, and more
🌐 See All of Rupert’s Programs and Shows:
Rupert Isaacson: https://rupertisaacson.com
Equine-Assisted Programs: https://newtrailslearning.com
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Facebook: https://facebook.com/horseboyworld
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In this inspiring episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson sits down with Melissa Connor, Executive Director of Renew Therapeutic Riding Center in Holland, Michigan. Recorded just weeks after Rupert visited the center, this conversation highlights what it takes to create a truly horse-centered therapeutic program—where equine well-being is as prioritized as human healing.
Melissa shares her decades-long journey through the equine-assisted services field, how she shaped a program with excellence in horse care, and the practical systems Renew uses to maintain a thriving herd of 22 horses. From rider conditioning and pasture management to financial sustainability and healthy organizational culture, Melissa offers a rare, transparent view into what truly ethical equine-assisted work looks like behind the scenes.
If you want to support the show, you can do so at Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/LongRideHome
✨ What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
Creating a Culture of Equine Well-Being (Starts at 01:00)
Evolving Out of the "Donated Horse" Mentality (Starts at 09:00)
Setting Standards for Horse Acceptance & Retirement (Starts at 20:00)
Toplines, Thriving, and Conditioning (Starts at 29:00)
Time Management & Staff Structure (Starts at 37:00)
Finding Skilled Riders for Conditioning (Starts at 41:00)
Turning Horses Out—Even in Michigan Winters (Starts at 47:00)
Funding a High-Standard Therapeutic Program (Starts at 56:00)
Community Culture, Conflict & Longevity (Starts at 1:10:00)
The Future of Equine Assisted Services (Starts at 1:33:00)
🌟 Memorable Moments from the Episode:
🤝 Connect with Melissa Connor & Renew TRC:
Website: https://renewtrc.org
Facebook: https://facebook.com/renewtrc
Instagram: https://instagram.com/renewtrc
🌐 See All of Rupert’s Programs and Shows:
Rupert Isaacson: https://rupertisaacson.com
Equine-Assisted Programs: https://newtrailslearning.com
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In this thought-provoking follow-up episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson reunites with legendary horseman Mark Rashid and clinician-author Crissi McDonald. This time, the conversation shifts deeper into the internal landscapes of both horse and human, exploring what it really means to be soft—without losing structure.
From navigating low-level panic and reframing anxiety, to understanding when pressure is productive and when it breaks us, Mark and Crissi offer powerful insights not only for horse people, but for anyone seeking a more peaceful way of being in the world. Broadcasting from Happy Dog Ranch in Colorado, they also share how kindness, community, nature, and play are essential ingredients in creating meaningful transformation.
(If you want to support the show, you can do so at Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/LongRideHome )
✨ What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
The Paradox of Softness & Anxiety (Starts at 01:00)
Speed Bumps and Nervous System Awareness (Starts at 08:00)
When Softness Meets an Unready Horse (Starts at 13:00)
Pressure vs. Anxiety (Starts at 25:00)
How We Live Matters (Starts at 31:00)
Clinic Structure That Feels Like Freedom (Starts at 36:00)
Nature, Tribe & the Horse-Human Herd (Starts at 42:00)
Softness With Structure (Starts at 52:00)
Building Confidence Without Force (Starts at 1:10:00)
Kindness as Framework (Starts at 1:20:00)
Reclaiming Tribe & Breaking the Misery Habit (Starts at 1:30:00)
🌟 Memorable Moments from the Episode:
🤝 Connect with Mark Rashid & Crissi McDonald:
Mark's Website: https://markrashid.com
Crissi’s Website: https://crissimcdonald.com
Books by Mark Rashid:
Considering the Horse: Tales of Problems Solved and Lessons Learned: https://amzn.to/3GbhmrK
Finding the Missed Path: The Art of Restarting Horse: https://amzn.to/44e47i2
A Journey to Softness: In Search of Feel and Connection with the Horse: https://amzn.to/44c0KIj
For the Love of the Horse: Looking Back, Looking Forward: https://amzn.to/4lkx8zD
Books by Crissi McDonald:
Rising From the Sea (North to Home Book 3): https://amzn.to/3ZL864h
Continuing The Ride: Rebuilding Confidence from the Ground Up: https://amzn.to/40iZUsf
The Clock in the Water (North to Home): https://amzn.to/40gmv8N
Getting Along with Horses: An Evolution in Understanding: https://amzn.to/4k4E8zs
🌐 See All of Rupert’s Programs and Shows:
Rupert Isaacson: https://rupertisaacson.com
Equine-Assisted Programs: https://newtrailslearning.com
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In this episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson welcomes renowned horseman Mark Rashid and equine clinician and author Crissi McDonald. Broadcasting from their home in Estes Park, Colorado, this inspiring duo shares how softness, internal awareness, and individual connection form the core of their horsemanship and life philosophy.
From Aikido to equine-assisted work, from storytelling to trauma-informed approaches, and from photo artistry to martial principles, Mark and Crissi reveal a unique path that blends kindness, discipline, and intuition in equal measure. With over 30 years of experience and thousands of horses and people taught, they bring a powerful perspective for anyone working in the equine-assisted world—or simply seeking a more compassionate way to be with horses.
✨ What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
🌟 Memorable Moments from the Episode:
🤝 Connect with Mark Rashid & Crissi McDonald:
Mark's Website: https://markrashid.com
Crissi’s Website: https://crissimcdonald.com
Books by Mark Rashid:
Considering the Horse: Tales of Problems Solved and Lessons Learned: https://amzn.to/3GbhmrK
Finding the Missed Path: The Art of Restarting Horse: https://amzn.to/44e47i2
A Journey to Softness: In Search of Feel and Connection with the Horse: https://amzn.to/44c0KIj
For the Love of the Horse: Looking Back, Looking Forward: https://amzn.to/4lkx8zD
Books by Crissi McDonald:
Rising From the Sea (North to Home Book 3): https://amzn.to/3ZL864h
Continuing The Ride: Rebuilding Confidence from the Ground Up: https://amzn.to/40iZUsf
The Clock in the Water (North to Home): https://amzn.to/40gmv8N
Getting Along with Horses: An Evolution in Understanding: https://amzn.to/4k4E8zs
🌐 See All of Rupert’s Programs and Shows:
Rupert Isaacson: https://rupertisaacson.com
Equine-Assisted Programs: https://newtrailslearning.com
📲 Follow Us:
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In this episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson speaks with Catherine Ward and her daughter Nicole Jones of One Acre Farm in Texas. Together, they’ve built a thriving outdoor farm school and equine-assisted program on just a single acre—proving that miracles don’t require massive land, just massive heart.
From backyard chickens to neurodiverse farm school, from ABA burnout to Montessori inspiration, and from homeschooling to creating a whole new educational paradigm, Catherine and Nicole share how they blend horsemanship, autonomy, and science to create a truly inclusive, joy-filled learning environment.
Discover how they overcame lawsuits, personal tragedy, and cultural bias to build something profoundly impactful—and how you can, too.
📚 What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
Starting Small: How One Acre Became a Movement (Starts at 01:00)
From ABA to Montessori to Movement Method (Starts at 06:00)
Faith, Loss, and Resilience: Catherine’s Personal Journey (Starts at 14:00)
Transition from Public School to Homeschooling (Starts at 24:00)
Neurodiversity, Animals, and Movement Method (Starts at 33:00)
The Science of Belonging: From Chickens to Compass Skills (Starts at 44:00)
The Curriculum in Action: Real Academics in a Farm School (Starts at 56:00)
Emotional Intelligence and Social Development (Starts at 1:08:00)
Infrastructure and Burnout Prevention (Starts at 1:22:00)
Mentorship, Consulting, and Creating New Campuses (Starts at 1:35:00)
From Mobile Education to Legacy Building (Starts at 1:47:00)
🌟 Memorable Moments from the Episode:
🤝 Connect with One Acre Farm:
Website: https://oneacrefarmtx.com
Email: Catherine Ward – catherine@oneacrefarmtx.com | Nicole Jones – nicole@oneacrefarmtx.com
Phone & WhatsApp: +1 832-860-4756
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/oneacrefarmtx
See All of Rupert’s Programs and Shows:
🌐 Rupert Isaacson: https://rupertisaacson.com
💻 Equine-Assisted Programs: https://newtrailslearning.com
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In this episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson speaks with Emma Hutchinson and Jay Hare of HorseBack UK, a groundbreaking charity based in the Scottish Highlands. Originally developed to support military veterans recovering from physical and emotional trauma, HorseBack UK now works across diverse populations including at-risk youth and refugee communities.
Jay shares his powerful personal journey as a Royal Marine commando who lost his leg and facial identity in combat—and found healing through horses. Emma walks us through the origins and growth of HorseBack UK, how they built their eclectic, nature-based programs, and how their holistic approach integrates horsemanship, bushcraft, mentorship, and leadership.
From PTSD recovery to ADHD support, herd dynamics to leadership development, this episode reveals how horses, nature, and community can reforge identity, restore dignity, and create lasting change.
📚 What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
Jay’s Story: Trauma, Recovery, and the Call to Serve (Starts at 02:00)
Why HorseBack UK Was Born (Starts at 12:00)
Healing Through Community, Nature, and Horses (Starts at 18:00)
Empathy Over Expertise: Mentorship at the Core (Starts at 29:00)
Youth Empowerment Through Herd Dynamics (Starts at 34:00)
Equine Wisdom: Personality Pairing and Groundwork (Starts at 44:00)
Nature as Classroom: Bushcraft, Breathwork, and Belonging (Starts at 51:00)
Sustainable Systems: How to Fund, Staff, and Grow (Starts at 1:04:00)
Creating a Professional Field: Regulation and Standards (Starts at 1:11:00)
🌟 Memorable Moments from the Episode:
Jay recalls sneezing his prosthetic eye into a salad and how humor helped him heal (13:00)
Why ADHD is not a deficit—it’s a superpower for problem-solving and leadership (22:00)
A Shetland pony as the confidence-building bridge for military giants (1:28:00)
How Emma’s 3-year-old daughter assumed everyone had prosthetic legs (1:33:00)
"Horses don’t care about your medals, degrees, or scars. They meet you in the moment."
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In this episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson sits down with Dr. Chantel Prat—a neuroscientist, psychologist, linguist, and horsewoman. Dr. Prat teaches at the University of Washington and is the author of The Neuroscience of You, a groundbreaking book that examines how every brain is different and what that means for our lives, relationships, and learning processes.
Rupert and Chantel dive deep into individual brain differences, the neuroscience of curiosity, attention, and empathy, and how equine-assisted practices can benefit from this knowledge. From mirror neurons to movement, nature, and neurodivergence, this episode explores how understanding our brains can transform education, therapy, leadership, and horsemanship.
📚 What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
The Neuroscience of Individuality (Starts at 02:00)
Rewiring How We Think About Intelligence (Starts at 06:00)
The Trouble with Normal: Education, Economics, and Brain Diversity (Starts at 14:00)
Curiosity, Creativity, and Collaboration (Starts at 17:00)
Mirror Neurons and Theory of Mind (Starts at 24:00)
Making Implicit Social Cues Explicit in Therapy (Starts at 34:00)
Movement, Nature, and Attention (Starts at 41:00)
The Brain and Attention: Not a Deficit, Just Different (Starts at 45:00)
Curiosity as the Ultimate Learning State (Starts at 58:00)
Medication, Diagnosis, and the Developing Brain (Starts at 1:17:00)
Plasticity, Psychedelics, and States of Consciousness (Starts at 1:29:00)
🌟 Memorable Moments from the Episode:
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In this episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson sits down with Leana Tank, an occupational therapist from Grand Rapids, Michigan, and an accomplished horsewoman specializing in equine-assisted services and behavioral health. Leana works with individuals at the extreme end of the mental health continuum—people coming from psychiatric hospitals and the criminal justice system, many diagnosed with schizophrenia, cognitive impairments, autism, and complex trauma.
Through her radical acceptance, sensory-based therapy, movement integration, and nature-centered approaches, Leana redefines how we think about healing, trauma, and society's marginalized populations. Her work invites us to reconsider the humanity, sensitivity, and resilience of individuals often deemed "other."
📘 What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
Meeting the Margins: Understanding Leana's Population (Starts at 02:00)
Radical Acceptance as a Therapeutic Tool (Starts at 06:00)
The Impact of Psychosis, Brain Injury, and Trauma (Starts at 15:00)
The Transformative Power of Movement and Nature (Starts at 29:00)
Occupational Therapy for the "Invisible" Population (Starts at 43:00)
Safety, Risk, and Working Without Fear (Starts at 54:00)
Building Healing Environments: Indoors and Out (Starts at 1:03:00)
Resilience Through Horses: Personal and Professional Lessons (Starts at 1:19:00)
Attunement and the Power of Radical Listening (Starts at 1:24:00)
The Future: Supporting Staff, Scaling Healing (Starts at 1:56:00)
🌟 Memorable Moments from the Episode:
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In this episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson sits down with Dr. Helen Sharp, an equine journalist, academic, and co-founder of Groundwork EAS—an equine-assisted charity on the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. A leading voice in both equine media and trauma-informed equine work, Dr. Sharp brings a unique blend of artistry, horsemanship, and therapeutic insight to everything she does.
She writes for The Irish Field and Farmers Weekly, and her career spans journalism, community arts, equine bodywork, and academic research. She holds a PhD and has a background in sculpture and performance art, with her creative and research work shown around the world. As co-director of Groundwork, she serves veterans, trauma survivors, and neurodivergent individuals through programs that fuse nature, horses, and compassionate partnership.
This powerful conversation traces her extraordinary journey from the Hebrides to heroin recovery, from performance art to equine-assisted leadership, and why horses continue to be the greatest teachers of all.
📘 What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
The Origins of Groundwork EAS (Starts at 03:00)
Inside the Program: Grounding, Grooming, and Gentle Touch (Starts at 06:44)
Memorable Story: A Veteran’s Breakthrough with Breathing (Starts at 13:00)
Breaking the Silence: Domestic Violence and Equine Healing (Starts at 19:35)
Childhood on the Edge: From the Hebrides to Horses (Starts at 23:03)
Art, Heroin, and Healing (Starts at 35:00)
The Role of Routine, Ritual, and Horses in Recovery (Starts at 57:31)
From Performance Art to Journalism (Starts at 01:00:00)
Creating Change: Groundwork’s Model and the Power of the Broodmare (Starts at 01:16:00)
The Future of Equine-Assisted Services in Ireland (Starts at 01:29:00)
✨ Memorable Moments from the Episode:
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Tune in to this remarkable conversation with Dr. Helen Sharp for a raw and resonant look at horses, healing, and hope on the Irish border.
In this episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson speaks with Dr. Megan McGavern, a board-certified physician in Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation. Megan shares the powerful story behind the founding of C.H.A.T.S.—Creative, Holistic, Adaptive, Therapeutic Solutions—and how it was born out of both professional insight and personal necessity.
When her son Cole faced significant challenges, and medical professionals told her to accept that he might never regain functionality, Megan refused to give up. Drawing on her medical training, clinical experience, and deep intuition as a mother, she created C.H.A.T.S. as a space where children like Cole could thrive. C.H.A.T.S. is not about traditional therapy or horseback riding—it is about building relationship, regulation, and readiness to learn through purposeful, adaptive, equine-based engagement.
What sets Megan apart is her ability to take science-based, evidence-backed practices—like Movement Method—and integrate them meaningfully into both therapeutic and clinical settings. After traveling to New Trails to learn Movement Method and Horse Boy Method firsthand from Rupert Isaacson, Megan returned home and applied what she had learned with her son Cole. The profound changes she witnessed led her to establish C.H.A.T.S. as a nonprofit organization. From there, she worked to bring Movement Method into the medical establishment, eventually helping to launch a neuroscience conference focused on the approach and its clinical applications.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
From Despair to Innovation: A Mother’s Mission (Starts at 01:45)
Movement Method and Medical Practice (Starts at 20:10)
C.H.A.T.S. in Action (Starts at 32:40)
The Dual Role: Mother and Medical Professional (Starts at 48:15)
Memorable Moments from the Episode:
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Tune in to this grounded and powerful conversation with Dr. Megan McGavern to learn how clinical science, determined parenting, and adaptive equine approaches are reshaping what's possible for children and families facing big challenges.
In this episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson sits down with Warwick Schiller, renowned horseman and creator of Attuned Horsemanship. Warwick is widely recognized for his transformative approach to horse training, which focuses on attunement, connection, and creating a sense of safety for the horse. Through his Journey On Podcast and extensive teaching, Warwick has helped thousands of riders and trainers understand the deeper layers of horsemanship and how true awareness changes everything.
Together, Rupert and Warwick explore the concept of attunement—how being truly present and aware influences both horses and people. They discuss how small, subtle shifts in attention can have profound effects on behavior, trust, and emotional regulation. They also dive into sleep deprivation in horses, the power of following rather than controlling, and what it really means to develop a deep partnership with an equine partner.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
Understanding Attunement and Connection (Starts at 02:20)
The Role of Awareness in Building Trust (Starts at 16:10)
The Power of Giving Up Control (Starts at 36:27)
How Sleep Deprivation Affects Horses (Starts at 56:10)
Integrating Attunement into Riding and Training (Starts at 1:14:22)
Practical Tools for Creating Attunement in Everyday Training (Starts at 1:36:27)
Memorable Moments from the Episode:
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Tune in to this inspiring conversation with Warwick Schiller to rethink your approach to horsemanship and connection!
In this episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson sits down with Mary Wanless, a pioneer in the field of rider biomechanics. For decades, Mary has been at the forefront of reshaping how we understand equestrian training by focusing on the physics and physiology of riding. With a background in physics and a deep curiosity about what truly makes a great rider, Mary has worked to demystify the biomechanics of effective riding. Her methods help riders of all levels develop a clearer understanding of their own bodies and how they interact with their horses.
Mary shares her insights into postural restoration, neurology in riding, the importance of feedback loops in instruction, and the crucial role of feel in equestrian training. This episode is packed with wisdom that will transform the way you approach riding and teaching.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
The Science of Rider Biomechanics (Starts at 02:20)
Understanding the Neurology of Riding (Starts at 16:10)
Bridging the Gap Between Language and Experience (Starts at 36:27)
The Core Foundations of Effective Riding (Starts at 56:10)
The Role of Flow in Riding (Starts at 1:14:22)
Training Tools and Resources for Riders (Starts at 1:36:27)
Memorable Moments from the Episode:
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Tune in to this enlightening conversation with Mary Wanless to revolutionize your approach to riding and training!
Robyn Hood, sister of Linda Tellington-Jones and a leading figure in the development of the Tellington TTouch Method, joins Rupert Isaacson in this insightful episode. Robyn has dedicated her life to refining and teaching TTouch, a revolutionary approach to working with horses, dogs, and other animals that fosters trust, connection, and healing. In this conversation, she delves into the origins of TTouch, its impact on equine well-being, and practical techniques that horse owners and equine-assisted practitioners can integrate into their work. Whether you're looking to deepen your relationship with your horse or explore a more mindful approach to training, this episode is filled with wisdom and practical insights. Learn more about Robyn’s work here: https://learn.ttouch.ca | https://ttouch.com
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
The Origins and Philosophy of TTouch (Starts at 02:31)
Key TTouch Techniques for Equine Well-being (Starts at 16:03)
Body Wraps and Their Impact on Equine Balance (Starts at 36:27)
TTouch for Enhancing Human-Equine Communication (Starts at 56:02)
Cross-Species Applications of TTouch (Starts at 1:14:22)
The Role of TTouch in Equine-Assisted Therapy (Starts at 1:36:27)
Memorable Moments from the Episode:
Connect with Robyn Hood & Tellington TTouch:
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